Wednesday, May 19, 2010

“Draw Muhammad Day” or "Everybody Draw Muhammad"

Its already been predicted in to my Religion, Islam, that a time will come when Muslims will be too many in number but would not have power. Got it? Just look around, and you can see that Muslims are the only ones in trouble. Best of worst is if you are a Muslim and have Muhammad in your name, then you are in a real problem, especially when you are moving between countries in west. They would not take a moment to remove your clothes, ridicule this way and detain you until your flight is missed. Keep Burqa aside, which interestingly is raising security concerns for countries like Italy, Belgium and for leaders like French president Mr. Sarkozy. We won’t talk about his wife.
West is actually funny that its putting a ban on burqa and soon Portugal will become the sixth country where same sex marriage will be allowed. Just ask Portugal's President Anibal Cavaco Silva, will Portugal have native Engineers, Doctors, Specialists even the municipality workers after 100 years? I do not know a way through which homosexuals can even lay an egg, giving birth to a baby is impossible dear sir! If Portugal and other 5 countries including Belgium, Spain, Norway, Netherlands and Sweden could survive this way, the next 100 years, then yes I am so foolish to understand their mind blowing anti natural wisdom that even their religions do not allow.
The major reasons of western expression is they think that Religion is everybody' personal matter. Let me tell you its not. Religion is a social matter and the major factor to introduce social harmony. Just assume Africa becomes the super power. Imagine if their undressed tribes take over the whole African industry. What would be the situation when most of the people working over there would not be wearing anything, since this is religious for these tribes, and also an expressional thing and you know the religion is a personal matter and also everyone is born free and should be allowed to do anything to express one' self, so such people will not be guilty if their female colleagues, passersby, kids, women in the lift car and sideways, and specially in the queues are offended, and it should not arise sexual harassment issues. Isn’t it funny enough to have a homosexual and undressed society of geniuses, where conservatives like me will watch the TV with closed eyes, and cross the roads with white stick in hand, and pay the bills online to avoid the harassing queues ... wow. West is best. I see both of these philosophies as destructive. So what else can you except from such weak societies and childish people, who can not see after 100 years, and are unable to understand the natural rules? There is something else my religion tells me. It says when you get into an argument with a stupid, just say "may peace be with you" and leave that place.
You would love to know that none of Muslims ever drew any sketch of Jesus Christ (In Islam Prophet Issa) or Jacob (In Islam Prophet Yaqoob, may peace be with them) or any other religion, except for a few incidents which would only happen because of a mix of Illiterate Muslims and politicians & their political benefits, who as a reaction destroyed some Hindu Temples in Pakistan, when Babri Mosque was destroyed in India. Where, Islam prohibits such things and with all generosity, allows religious freedom to non Muslims (Terms & Conditions apply). All blasphemies will always continue and there is no way to stop them but may be until Muslims get back into power with Mahdi (yet to come), the last caliph of Islam (May peace be with him) as the only ruler of whole world with His capital in Palestine. By the way what does Islam say about a child who does not understand his relation to his father and slaps him. Would Islam say that he must be punished? Obviously no! Non Muslims are like kids, since they don't understand what is philosophy of Islam. Just ignore and do not promote whatever they say against your religion, where at the same time, you need to clear your point to them, right?
People you need to realize that you can not stop these blasphemies and in fact by boycotting Facebook for "Draw Muhammad Day" and everything similar, you are ignoring a fact of positive propaganda. Fight back! Use Facebook to propagate your philosophy. You boycott news papers, western products, TV channels and websites, and if you continue to do this, you will never know what west thinks and thus you would never be able to clear your point of view to the world. Didn’t Prophet (Peace be upon Him) send letters to world leaders? It was obviously to introduce Islamic philosophy. Defend your religion with the positive propaganda. It’s not the car that you blame if someone hits it to a wall, it’s the driver to be blamed, but if the driver is a kid, just ignore and be kind to him. He’ll become your fan. Do not stop, ride the car for your benefit. I never knew about this group or whatever it is, I didn’t bother to see it, on Facebook, until few of my Muslim friends sent me messages using Facebook and via e-mails, which clearly showed me that its them who are promoting such blasphemies unknowingly and adding to the potential profits of cause holders.
Oh yes last thing. Now you know that Norway and Belgium are the countries who are allowing same sex marriage and do you still remember that their news papers used the freedom of expression and drew sketches or their country ban burqa respectively. They are weak in their minds because they promote homosexual marriages. Just ignore their acts as a child’ slap on your face, and promote your cause. Think about it!

26 comments:

  1. Dear Kashif very good effort but i have different opinion on some of the issues, like "WEST IS WORST", "MUSLIMS ARE INNOCENTS", "ALL THE WEST IS HOMO" Type theories.....

    But I really like your efforts, i had a plan to write but you know I am very LAZY about it......

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  2. Hello Percy. Thanks for taking time to read and for appreciation. I'll comment some other time on what you said, let me think on it. About writing, see, I am not a writer, but frustrated because of corporate lies, and simply put it online just to release my frustration.
    You can also write, just put anything online and then you will not stop writing. Try. TC.

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  3. wonderful words....totaly agree that diverting from nature will end up in ruinsome....n just disseminate the right meaning of our religion islam...this is the best way to counter such offences like 20th May,10.
    islam is based on law of nature as our CREATOR ALLAH is GOD OF NATURE !

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  4. Hello Kashif,

    As per your request on my blog I have responded to your article in the comment section of my article…

    http://politicsontheblade.blogspot.com/2010/05/blog-hijacked-everybody-draw-muhammad.html

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  5. Hello Livingsword.
    Thanks for taking time to read and giving me your opinion. I replied to your comments on your article which were
    "Hello Livingsword.

    I dont see any example that would defend your kind comments on:
    1. "The political-religious system and empire that Muhammad created is faulty and in error."
    2. "The politics it tries to propagate are tragically flawed and the basis of the religion is intrinsically unsound and unsustainable."
    3. "In short Islam is committing suicide"
    Thanks.", but somehow they got deleted. I have again commented the same, for your kind reply. thanks.

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  6. Hello Kashif,

    Here was my reply….

    First, I want to thank you for this opportunity at discourse…

    My comments were simply in response to the despondency you reflected in your article.

    You said that Muslims have “numbers” but “have not power”? This is because the Islamic political and religious system disenfranchises creativity; freedom of thought and expression, liberty of movement (you expressed your misgivings about not being able to travel in the West but it is much more difficult for those in the West to travel in many predominantly Muslim countries such as for example Saudi Arabia...perhaps if Saudi allowed itself to open up to open travel this would mitigate some of the damage) Islam disables 50% of its workforce (women) and it enfeebles lives in its form of religious rules and rituals…

    Muhammad created his empire with violence and aggression, in the modern world we both know that this is viewed as horribly faulty (no mater if it is from the Islamic world, the West, China etc)… The current world honours conversations of ideas and ideals and Islam’s conversation has thus far proven unsuccessful…perhaps your blogging will be one of those steps that improves the situation…

    Respectfully…I tell you this not to hurt feelings but simply to inform..the mere fact that I have to say this adds to the challenges of Islam…

    Muhammad is in global eyes (not just Western but Asian etc) a very poor role model; his personal life is seen as one of depravity and his political model is seen as one of tyranny…thus as long as he and his teachings in the Quran (and emphasised in the Hadith) are held as being the model for Islam to follow Islam will be seen around the globe as emaciated and flawed…

    I suggest freedom of religion, speech, media, political association, liberty of movement, equality of gender, democracy and capitalism as being helpful if utilized by Islam…which instead of being applied for gaining submission could be used for collaboration…

    In the current world we live upon “best practices” whoever comes along with the best ideas succeeds…Islamic ideas are tragically flawed as you said it has not worked thus far…adaptation is required…I for one hope that such adaptation is successful and those parts of the world manage to throw off the tyranny of Muhammad’s plan…

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  7. Hello Livingsowrd,
    Thanks for taking time to reply.
    My questions are still not answered; what I asked, you can see in my previous comment.
    I would like to quote Sir George Bernard Shaw, who in in 'The Genuine Islam,' Vol. 1, No. 8, 1936 said "If any religion had the chance of ruling over England, nay Europe within the next hundred years, it could be Islam." and adds further, “I have always held the religion of Muhammad in high estimation because of its wonderful vitality. It is the only religion which appears to me to possess that assimilating capacity to the changing phase of existence which can make itself appeal to every age. I have studied him - the wonderful man and in my opinion for from being an anti-Christ, he must be called the Savior of Humanity."
    And also that
    "I believe that if a man like him were to assume the dictatorship of the modern world he would succeed in solving its problems in a way that would bring it the much needed peace and happiness: I have prophesied about the faith of Muhammad that it would be acceptable to the Europe of tomorrow as it is beginning to be acceptable to the Europe of today.”
    Also just to add into your wast knowledge,
    You may already know what Michael Hart in 'The 100, A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons In History,' New York, 1978, wrote.
    "My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world’s most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the secular and religious level. ...It is probable that the relative influence of Muhammad on Islam has been larger than the combined influence of Jesus Christ and St. Paul on Christianity. ...It is this unparalleled combination of secular and religious influence which I feel entitles Muhammad to be considered the most influential single figure in human history."
    PBUH.

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  8. You talked about the empire that Prophet MUHAMMAD (PBUH) created. I would like to tell you, not what I think about it, or criticize whatever is your opinion, I would quote Dr. William Draper in 'History of Intellectual Development of Europe'
    "Four years after the death of Justinian, A.D. 569, was born in Mecca, in Arabia, the man who, of all men, has exercised the greatest influence upon the human race... To be the religious head of many empires, to guide the daily life of one-third of the human race, may perhaps justify the title of a Messenger of God."
    I dont have much to say after historic people, who were more knowledgefull than I could ever be have already said, FYI.
    1. Thomas Carlyle in 'Heroes and Hero Worship and the Heroic in History,' 1840
    2. A. S. Tritton in 'Islam,' 1951
    3. De Lacy O'Leary in 'Islam at the Crossroads,' London, 1923.
    4. Gibbon in 'The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' 1823
    5. Edward Gibbon and Simon Oakley in ‘History of the Saracen Empire,’ London, 1870
    6. Reverend Bosworth Smith in 'Muhammad and Muhammadanism,' London, 1874.
    7. Edward Montet, 'La Propagande Chretienne et ses Adversaries Musulmans,' Paris 1890. (Also in T.W. 8. Arnold in 'The Preaching of Islam,' London 1913.)
    9. Alphonse de LaMartaine in 'Historie de la Turquie,' Paris, 1854.
    10. Mahatma Gandhi, statement published in 'Young India,'1924.
    11. Arthur Glyn Leonard in 'Islam, Her Moral and Spiritual Values'
    12. Philip K. Hitti in 'History of the Arabs'
    13. Rodwell in the Preface to his translation of the Holy Qur'an
    14. W. Montgomery Watt in 'Muhammad at Mecca,' Oxford, 1953.
    15. D. G. Hogarth in 'Arabia'
    16. Washington Irving 'Mahomet and His Successors'
    17. James Michener in ‘Islam: The Misunderstood Religion,’ Reader’s Digest, May 1955, pp. 68-70.
    18. Lawrence E. Browne in ‘The Prospects of Islam,’ 1944
    19. K. S. Ramakrishna Rao in 'Mohammed: The Prophet of Islam,' 1989

    This was just the introduction to Islam, and I hope our relationship will go longer.
    Thanks.

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  9. Hi Kashif,

    Thanks for the conversation…I should let you know that I have read the Quran 8 times in English (7 times before 9/11), I have read the Hadith 2 times (1 time before 9/11)…I have studied both Persian and Arab culture and history and have many friends of both cultures…I have been in over 20 mosques…sitting on my bookshelf I have *counting* over 130 books about the Middle East with over 50 of them written by Muslims…I have 12 books on the life of Muhammad written by Muslims…plus 8 from non-Muslims…I know the life of Muhammad quite well indeed…so as you can see I am far beyond needing an introduction to Islam or Muhammad…I am not an ignorant westerner…

    How many times have you read the Bible? (I mean the Bible itself not what the Quran says about it)…How many books written by Christians about Jesus have you read? How many times have you read the Magna Carta or the US Declaration of Independence?

    As per your quotes…I am aware of the writers…in all honesty I am more interested in your ideas than theirs…

    With respect I did answer your question…you said in your article and I quote:

    “Its already been predicted in to my Religion, Islam, that a time will come when Muslims will be too many in number but would not have power. Got it? Just look around, and you can see that Muslims are the only ones in trouble. “

    You are the one declaring that Muslims are “many in number” and yet do not “have power” and are “in trouble.” So I gave you various points all derived from how Muhammad’s plan implemented through the Quran and Hadith has failed…

    I agree with you that Islam is in a dire situation…it lacks freedom of thought, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of movement, freedom of political association, it is held in disdain by most of the world, it contains large amounts of its people in illiteracy, women are treated horribly (as well the economic impact of the oppression of women is a hugely disabling force in Islam)…Yet when I read the Quran and Hadith it is clear that those freedoms should not be allowed under Islam…Islamic teaching is the problem which promotes Arab Imperialism…

    Question: Do you really want me to list reasons why Muhammad is a good person to follow? Certainly he was influential but so was Hitler…Influence does not mean good…

    FROM
    http://politicsontheblade.blogspot.com/2010/05/blog-hijacked-everybody-draw-muhammad.html

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  10. Hello Kashif,

    Livingsword has pointed me to your blog and it is certainly interesting. Here in California, my home town of Fremont has a large Muslim community. I am curious on your thoughts regarding California's recent war over homosexual marriage. The political fighting was fought between the Christians and the anti-Christians. My memory may be deceiving me, but I can't recall the Muslim community getting publicly involved. Is there room for Christians and Muslims to agree and work together on certain issues - like stopping the government from encouraging and promoting homosexuality - for the sake of society? Or do you think that it makes more sense to let Christians and anti-Christians fight over the steering wheel until the car of society goes over a cliff?

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  11. Hello Looney,
    Appreciations, but its like showing light to the sun, since you are very senior to me. Generally speaking I feel that this is destructive for a society, and is obviously anti religion.
    It been predicted by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) that a time will come when men will marry men and women will marry women.
    If Muslims are not speaking in California, and if they think that they will not be effected, its not possible, someday the fire will reach their homes. But the other side could be their already ruined image by none other but media and different factors.
    For your kind comment "Is there room for Christians and Muslims to agree ...,"
    with due respect, yes certainly there are ways which include Integration and listening & eagerness to understand each other and thus becoming a power.
    In west, major conflict starts when institutions become Superior than religion. In this issue, I am sure Church will never promote such foolish causes of social and moral destruction, but since one of the unfortunate philosophies of west is "Religion is everybody' personal matter", so accordingly, Church will never be able to become the supreme power to stop such destructive causes and look around to solve humanitarian issues.
    Second part of your comment, "stopping the government from encouraging and promoting homosexuality - for the sake of society? "
    As you know that same sex marriage is not allowed in any Islamic country. This is because Islamic social structure relies on the balance of nature and logic, and to be honest, Islam, as I know it is far beyond being just a religion but actually is a life style, where if we do what God has prohibited in Quran, then we believe it will have a negative impact on personal and social grounds. Interestingly there is nothing in Islam, that is not according to the nature. Just analyze pork and swine flue issue, or take adultery and Aids, drinking & smoking and lungs diseases & cancer, not taking bath according to the standards defined by Islam and bad body odor (valid for muslims as well), allowing woman the social freedom in the name of woman' rights and declining the birth rate, or increasing the illegal birth rates, or otherwise adultery, and developing a society where women will only be taken as a pleasure object.
    Taking about nature and defending my above points for example, is it natural that women get married to anyone else at the same time while being already married to someone (Whose kid will the next one be?), or do whatever they want; definitely a sensible person would not allow this to happen in his family. At the same time educating them is a must in Islam, and giving them their share in property is a must, before marrying them, taking their consent and be stick to it is a must and so many other rights). Every question has an answer in Islam. When societies don't follow the rules of nature,they can not sustain.
    Not only Christians and Muslims, but all religions need to develop close relationships, understandings, acceptance, tolerance. To do all this, for me, if you give me a non Muslim person, I just need a cup of coffee with him, given that the person is willing to listen, learn about the philosophy I follow, and integrate.
    I am very glad that you are thinking about the integration. What more I can think onto it is California should have a think tank of a few Teachers, Doctors, Scientists, Scholars and Thinkers, who will dig into the effects of homosexual relationships, and psychological lacks in such persons.
    I feel to elaborate more, I need a series of blog on the same topic. Thanks. Please note,I didn't write anything with a tease for you into my mind.

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  12. Kahif, can you point me to the original source for this quote:

    "It been predicted by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) that a time will come when men will marry men and women will marry women. "

    The Bible too talks of moral degeneracy in the later days, so this is what Christians expect also. I don't believe that what the gays are doing is marriage. Part of their belief is that everything good must be mocked and desecrated, so it is important for them to make public spectacles and drag people into court who won't recognize their phony marriages, but they don't form marriage type relationships.

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  13. Dear Livingsowrd. Your reading knowledge is really impressive and inspiring. I appreciate you and acknowledge the attraction of Quran.
    Mean time I feel that you are in a state of denial, since you lack the lowest level of tolerance and professionalism, I feel stupid to tell you what I think about Islam because you are not accepting what your people said about Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him), so how come there is a way you will accept my views. You just want an argument. If you had a passion like our colleague Looney, then I would surely lengthen this argument. Hope it didn't offend much since truth is always bitter. Thanks.

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  14. Hello Looney,
    Sorry for the late reply, actually I have an Urdu language' version, but I am trying to find a version understandable for you. Please give me some more time. Thanks.

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  15. Hi Kashif,

    Thank you for your kind words and I appreciate the conversation...

    I was an atheist till my late twenties (now I’m in my mid-forties) but spent 9 or so years leading up to that time studying humanities various religions and world views etc...then I became a follower of Jesus. That’s the short story the more exciting version can be found here, its my story:

    http://lifeontheblade.blogspot.com/2008/03/life-on-blade-1-year-anniversary-how-it.html

    I wanted to be intellectually accurate so I made sure I had a good understanding of Islam and thus the Quran...I read plenty of Islamic sources that made extravagant claims about the Quran so I kept looking for it...didn’t find it...now in the Bible the teachings of Jesus miraculously touched my soul...

    ...Oh interesting now I got to the part where you say I am in a “state of denial”...I am curious as to what you mean...I am guessing that you are not pleased that a person could study about Islam and Muhammad and find that they have been rejected...fair enough...

    However...I have at least studied them in-depth...are you rejecting Jesus and His message in the Bible without ever studying what He really said...not what the Quran says but what Jesus really said...

    I am interested in dialogue based upon truth...I am not out to get you to accept my views, why are you so concerned about me being willing to accept your views? This is what freedom of speech and freedom of religion are all about; peaceful coexistence and interchange of ideas with freedom to worship as the individual feels led to...

    Kashif do you realize that your comment is an example of why Islam is as you said “in trouble”? I’m willing to hear your reasons for how great the Quran and Muhammad are...but are you willing to hear why I think Jesus and the Bible are so great?

    Blogging and freedom of speech are about more than convincing others of your point of view it is about the sharing of ideas and ideals in a peaceful way...the willingness to converse is success...the rejection of others because they disagree on an idea or ideal is failure...

    What would Muhammad do?

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  16. Guyz i have read this blog and even your comments and i have come to realize a bit about your perceptions and your opinions...
    As i am not as much aware like u pple and don't even have enough knowledge like u as u have read alot and have been in depth of religions and their teachings.
    But the thing which i would like to share is that as u said livingsword u have studied alot about religions brfore choosing the best one for u but i want to ask that did u just studied???
    i mean we are told that Islam was spread not on just teachings but was spread by Muhammad's PBUH character. He Himself adopted all those teachings, made them His lifestyle and that's how people came to know the real essence of Islam. And that's how Islam dominated and ruled on whole world. People followed him. and got success..
    If u just studied then how can u be sure that u got the real essence of Islam???
    when u just not personally adopted those teachings???

    I am not saying thay y u disagree with Islam or y r u not agree with Muhammad PBUH??
    the thing which comes into my mind by reading your opinion is that might u didn't got the real essencs of Islam and while studying Quran u might have some falsifiying perceptions in your mind.. tht's y u didn't find it true.

    As u took christianity as yur religion this would be tht there will be dominance around u of christianty teachings..

    and Kashif u have done quite a good job. its nice to read this blog.
    and may be it would be a milestone in this regard or even we all can put our efforts in telling that the things are not the way most of the westens think..

    and if u don't agree with Muhammad PBUH then y are u drawing him??? that shows your frustation and shows that there is somewhere He is dominating upon u. and u are doin these type of foolish things to get satiffaction of your false thoughts and missdeads.

    well i m not a writer or not a philosher but that is ma opinion which came in my mind by reading u pple..

    if i said something that shows anytype of personnel attack then it would be that i dont have the proper words to discribe ma opinion .

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  17. Hello Mishaal it is nice to meet you…

    I mentioned in my comments that I have many Muslim friends and have been in many mosques. So it is not just a matter of book learning I have firsthand experience around Islam although after investigating it I reject its teachings and am not a practitioner. Until I was in my late twenties I was an atheist, I did not grow up around the Church or Christians (most westerners are NOT Christians). Of course I also know many people that were Muslims that are now followers of Jesus.

    I am a follower of Jesus because I believe the message in the Bible is true and do not trust the message of the Quran and Muhammad (however I fully support freedom of religion and speech, do you?).

    If you want I will say why I do not trust the Quran and find that Muhammad falls far short when compared to Jesus but I understand that most Muslims are not used to critiques of the Quran and Muhammad and get hostile (or even violent) when such things are said. There are real good reasons why I have chosen to not be a Muslim and have chosen to become a follower of Jesus.

    Now I will turn your question towards yourself. Have you studied the Bible in-depth (not just what the Quran says about it but the Bible Itself?) Have you studied the life of Jesus from books written by Christians? I have read many books written by Muslims about Muhammad are you willing to read books like that about Jesus? Do you have lots of Christian friends and spend time with them in their Churches? I have done this with Muslims…Are you a Muslim because you are surrounded by Muslims?

    Following Jesus is NOT a religion but a relationship with the living God.

    It is wonderful to have conversed with you and I hope that you will continue this conversation, thank you…I gift you with these treasured words of the Holy Scriptures (the Bible):

    8 God saved you by his grace when you believed. And you can’t take credit for this; it is a gift from God. 9 Salvation is not a reward for the good things we have done, so none of us can boast about it. 10 For we are God’s masterpiece. He has created us anew in Christ Jesus, so we can do the good things he planned for us long ago.
    - - Ephesians 2:8-10
    FROM http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%202&version=NLT

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  18. Hello Livingsowrd. No more long stories and recursions please, just answer my first question out of a series, that I have for you, after knowing your "reading" knowledge. question # 1 is: What does Quran say about Bible?

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  19. Peace be with you Kashif…

    Great question…the Quran says a lot about the Holy Bible and the “People of the Book”…

    In short (as that seems to be what you desire on this complex topic) the Quran misquotes the Holy Bible repeatedly (of course many Muslims would claim “harrafa”, a point that is clearly illegitimate as the Holy Bible is magnificently preserved, this was something I tested when I was an atheist). As the Holy Bible is the same today as 1900 years ago (at the final completion of revelation) and also 1400 years ago (at the time of the life of the author of the Quran) we know that the Biblical text has not changed, it is trustworthy and true. Of course God preserves His Word, to suggest that the Holy Bible is corrupt is to declare God Himself is corrupt…

    One of the major challenges about your question is that the Quran says complimentary things about the Holy Bible but then those words are abrogated…plus central teachings of the Holy Bible are attacked by the Quran which is understandable since Muhammad was confused about the Holy Bible and Christianity. Thus what the Quran gives with one hand it takes away with the other…God is not an Author of confusion and clearly the Quran is confused…

    Likewise Muslims are told to listen to People of the Book but clearly do not…

    Now my question #1 (once again): Have you read the Holy Bible itself all the way through?

    Thanks for continuing this conversation…

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  20. livingsword parden me sir but as far I know and have the knowledege that ur holy Bible has a new edition. where did this came from???

    how could there be editions in a Holy Book??? when once it has been completlly sended by ALLAH..

    who is allowed to do editions???

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  21. Hello Livingsowrd. Before putting a second question in front of your absolute knowledge(which you are pretending to have), hey I found something else funny into your second last comment; check out what you said:
    " Following Jesus is NOT a religion but a relationship with the living God.". wow Living God... This is what happens when you think you are the ultimate reader, writer and a commentator.
    Now my second question is: what does Quran say about Jesus(May peace with with HIM)? Thanks.

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  22. Mishaal…

    I have no idea what you are talking about…

    The Holy Bible has not changed since its completion…clearly you are misinformed…but don’t take my word for it…study the bible for yourself…obviously God would not allow its corruption…or are you willing to say that the Quran is corrupted?

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  23. Hi Kashif…

    I see you are resorting to ad homonym attacks… Technically an “ad hominem abusive”:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem

    You are using sarcasm towards my knowledge thus attacking me in a personal way and not just my ideas…do you really want to fit into the Islamic stereotype? I think you can do better than that…

    You are indicating that my knowledge is insufficient yet I am the one who has studied Islam and the Quran and you have not indicated that you have studied the Bible…as a matter of fact you avoid answering my questions and are hostile towards me (not just my ideas but me as a person). Don’t demean my person but instead defeat my ideas if you can…

    Muhammad had many misconceptions about Jesus and embedded those inaccuracies into the text of the Quran…however…

    Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
    - - John 14:6

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  24. Hello Livingsowrd.
    See what you said to me "I see you are resorting to ad homonym attacks… Technically an “ad hominem abusive”" and then see what was your comment for Mishaal "God would not allow its corruption…or are you willing to say that the Quran is corrupted?". How funny, you keep trying to drag the topic... OK fair enough that you dont agree with Islam or Quran or Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), but does Bible tell you to say things about anyone' religion like this (If you are dare enough do answer this question in Yes or No, no long stories). And if Bible says its the freedom of expression, then you should not consider my comments as "homonym attack" but the freedom of expression.
    Lets start from your comment on this blog "despondency you reflected in your article", In fact you didn't read carefully and didn't understand what was the simplest message (Last line of my blog "Just ignore their acts as a child’ slap on your face, and promote your cause. Think about it!") such an ignorant ... A professional commentator would not say the things you keep saying and I ignore " as a child’ slap" but I know its you who referenced unauthenticated source in his blog, and as an evidence you can check your own blog which starts something "would you vote for Muhammad (Addition PBUH)". Actually I already know that you are a person who lives in his own world of ideas, does not even want to comment on what people from his own religion say about Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), and funny thing is that you easily get sidetracked and your comments which start from something and end at saying anything about Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) or Quran, or "Have you read Bible?". All of your blogs are of the same style, evidently lacking versatility of thoughts, which is enough to prove that you can not think out of the vacuum you live into. Now about your long standing question of reading Bible, I've never read Bible but I am really interested in reading it and I have also requested one of my friends in India to bring me a version that he himself goes through. My blog was just a social one, but you are trying to preach us. OK good. Where would you like to start preaching? And get ready for the answers; logical, solid and technically proven. May we become able to make this world a better place to live. thanks.

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  25. Hello Kashif,

    PART 1

    “does Bible tell you to say things about anyone' religion like this (If you are dare enough do answer this question in Yes or No, no long stories).”

    - Jesus repeatedly corrected those who had wrong spiritual/religious beliefs…He did so peacefully…and I am following His modeling…

    “And if Bible says its the freedom of expression, then you should not consider my comments as "homonym attack" but the freedom of expression.”

    - Kashif I was simply providing friendly advice to you, when you attack the person and not just their ideas it makes your argument weaker. I will add that I did not say I was using the Holy Bible as a source on freedom of expression…

    “Lets start from your comment on this blog "despondency you reflected in your article", In fact you didn't read carefully and didn't understand what was the simplest message (Last line of my blog "Just ignore their acts as a child’ slap on your face, and promote your cause. Think about it!") such an ignorant ...”

    - I recognize that English is not your first language Kashif (and applaud your blogging in it)…perhaps this explains some of the misunderstanding? Your article seems to be lamenting how bad off Islam is…a fact which I simply acknowledged…

    “A professional commentator would not say the things you keep saying and I ignore " as a child’ slap" but I know its you who referenced unauthenticated source in his blog, and as an evidence you can check your own blog which starts something "would you vote for Muhammad (Addition PBUH)".”

    - First I have not indicated that I am a “professional commentator”…I am simply communicating my humble opinion…I have no idea what you are talking about when you say “unauthenticated source in his blog” (are you using a translation program?) As per my article asking the question "would you vote for Muhammad?” I would think that you would provide a comment there supporting him…He certainly would not get elected anywhere in the Western world…do you understand why?

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  26. PART 2

    “Actually I already know that you are a person who lives in his own world of ideas, does not even want to comment on what people from his own religion say about Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), and funny thing is that you easily get sidetracked and your comments which start from something and end at saying anything about Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) or Quran, or "Have you read Bible?".”

    - Kashif I am unaware of any person of my “own religion” that you have quoted…please understand that just because a person is Western does NOT mean they are a genuine follower of Jesus. MOST people in the West are NOT Christians. For example you quoted George_Bernard_Shaw about whom Wikipedia says:

    In his will, Shaw stated that his "religious convictions and scientific views cannot at present be more specifically defined than as those of a believer in creative revolution." He requested that no one should imply that he accepted the beliefs of any specific religious organization, and that no memorial to him should "take the form of a cross or any other instrument of torture or symbol of blood sacrifice."
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Bernard_Shaw#Religion

    He was a socialist atheist…plus the quote attributed to him about Islam is possibly a fallacy:

    “Interview, (April 1935), as quoted in The Genuine Islam, Vol. 1 (January 1936), and "Being an Unforgivably Protracted Debunking of George Bernard Shaw’s Views of Islam" (3 December 2008) by Rachel Loew; Loew states that there are many paraphrased and abbreviated versions of this statement online, and that it does not actually appear in the body of the interview itself, but only in a separate quote box. A portion of the statement also appears quoted in The Islamic Review, Vol. 24 (1936) edited by Khwaja Kamal-ud-Din‎, p. 263”
    Source: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_Bernard_Shaw

    “All of your blogs are of the same style, evidently lacking versatility of thoughts, which is enough to prove that you can not think out of the vacuum you live into.”

    - Very interesting statement…however I differ with you upon this…I have ten blogs and I suggest my blog visit numbers would support that I must have some creativity…for example one of my blogs http://lifeontheblade.blogspot.com/ has over 182,000 page views…and it has won various awards…how many views and awards does your blog have?

    “Now about your long standing question of reading Bible, I've never read Bible but I am really interested in reading it and I have also requested one of my friends in India to bring me a version that he himself goes through. My blog was just a social one, but you are trying to preach us. OK good. Where would you like to start preaching? And get ready for the answers; logical, solid and technically proven. May we become able to make this world a better place to live. thanks.”

    - Kashif my point about reading the Bible is this…I have rejected the message of Islam after studying the Quran and Hadith…I know what I am rejecting…however I know many in Islam that reject Jesus but have not read His words…it is about making an informed choice…You say your blog is simply a “social one” fair enough…perhaps the you should label it as such and change your subtitle from “A wandering watchdog views” or as your profile says “A watchdog, wandering around to find what is right and what is wrong!” to instead say a “Social Blog”.

    Please understand that I enjoy our conversation, I actually like you otherwise I would not continue the dialogue…I have even become a Blogger “follower” of you…I think these kinds of conversations do make the world a better place and you deserve credit for engaging in conversations like this…

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